47 entries from January 2008.




Voices from the strike

Many apologies for not posting anything since Thursday; there hasn't been any real "reportable" progress on the talks between the AMPTP and the WGA, which is kind of what I had expected would happen. The chances that the DGA's deal with big media was going to be close enough to settle on something similar within a few days were nearly nonexistent. There probably is a lot of good stuff in that pact, but as SAG has recently said, without actually seeing the contract in all its glory, nobody can really say for sure.There are enough areas of concern that were not adequately addressed in the press releases to foresee a less combative, yet still contentious negotiations going forward. Regardless...
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Justice League is a mess

I know a lot of people seem to be drooling at the thought of a Justice League flick, but I'm not one of them, so I'm looking at this movie from the same kind of perspective I look at any other film. Who wrote it? Who is directing? Who's starring? Is it a niche theme or will it appeal to a large audience?Well it looks like the writer is a career TV freelancer which is never a good sign. He's been able to make a living doing it for a number of years, so he must have some talent, but never quite enough to get hired on a writing staff. Somehow though, this qualifies you go take on a top...


NBC wins a little, losses a little with the writers strike

Here's a thought: NBC seems like it has benefited the most from the writers strike, and is also suffering the worst of it. How funky is that? They won Monday outright, and came in second on "American Idol Tuesday." Without Idol, NBC may have won that day, too. And yet here is a network that has be stuck in fourth for the past few years after the demise of its extremely popular sitcoms, giving money back to advertisers because it knew it couldn't meet its ratings promises.A recent earnings report showed that for parent General Electric, USA out-earned NBC by a ratio of nearly 6:1, and the once great broadcast net is not doing any upfront sales this year and...
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SMG says a new Buffy flick wouldn't work

Insert the obligatory introduction mentioning how if it hadn't been for the production and failure of a Buffy movie, there wouldn't have been a series to begin with, and hence no opportunity for Sarah Michelle Gellar to piss all over the hopes and dreams of many-a-devoted fan.Then edit to remind readers that there has already been one Buffy flick, so you can't really say a Buffy flick wouldn't work. Struggle with the inevitable formatting difficulties of inserting a blockquote with the proper spacing both above, and below, the introduction paragraph and summarization.Buffy the Vampire Slayer, from creator Joss Whedon, was itself a reboot of the flop 1992 movie of the same name that starred Kristy Swanson.Point out the painfully obvious:...
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The Mysterious Case of Comment Breakage

Can you tell I've been reading Mark Russinovich too much lately? Yeah, I'm getting kind of annoyed by it too, but anyway..The comments have been broken for almost two months, and only last night did I find out this lovely fact. They are fixed site-wide and you are free to spew forth and enlighten me on the many errors of my ways. If you're wondering what the problem was, and feel really, really bored today, then read on, as I shall explain in truly excruciating detail every thought I had and thing I've done since the day I was born that lead up to this terrible calamity....


Goodbye Enterprise, Hello Jericho..(Updated)

The Scifi channel is trading Klingons for country bumpkins trying to survive a post-apocalyptic United States on Monday nights, beginning February 11th.Goodbye Enterprise, hello Jericho!According to the press release, said mini-marathon will begin one day before the new "season" begins on CBS in a move to cushion their scripted drama depraved schedule due to the ongoing writers strike. It's really just a limited-run...something since a season consists of 22-24 episodes, not 7.I really do like the later seasons of Enterprise and I'll be a little sad to see them go, but a very fine show is taking its place that need people need to see. Jericho had its bumps as any new series does, but it easily earned a second...
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Heath Ledger found dead

Kind of a bummer of a story to lead off the afternoon with, it seems that Heath Ledger was found dead about an hour and a half ago, apparently from a drug overdose. I don't know why, but I'm sure we'll hear all about how depressed he was and how all his friends were "concerned" about him, yet stood by while he slowly (and then quickly) ended his life.Ledger's most recent work was playing The Joker in Batman: The Dark Knight, which just finished shooting.Well, ... what else can you say? I feel horrible for his family, yet how can you not be pissed at the guy who literally threw his life away with a family that needed them? Rich,...
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Uniontown news

It's been an eventful month with the Directors Guild of America (DGA) making a soft deal with the Association of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), and SAG trying as hard as possible to get away from AFTRA which AFTRA clearly doesn't want. Kind of strange, that relationship -- AFTRA doesn't respect the SAG's logical position that voting rights should be relative to income earned, as it is with the WGA-East and WGA-West, yet they don't want this split to happen and will probably sue to try to stop it from happening....
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The DGA deal is a good start

Chances are I won't have any net access on the 19th because of weather, so I'm just jotting this down tonight (the 18th) for everyone to read tomorrow. Just a thought or two about the DGA deal -- primarily being that a lot of "moderates" seem to be extremely happy with the deal and though I've not actually seen it, many of them are undoubtedly going to pressure the leadership to take whatever the childish AMPTP offers them.Honestly, I think that's dumb....
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WGA signs landmark digital deal

I call this a landmark digital deal because the interim agreement may the first step towards changing how television is created and then delivered to viewers. Doug Liman has founded a startup called Jackson Bites to foster out-of-industry development of online entertainment."If the last strike is best remembered for the studios attempting to show they could create programming without writers, this could be the strike where the writers show they can do it without the studios," said Liman. "We are at a moment of opportunity in television where we have gone from three networks to six, and from a handful of channels to a thousand and YouTube. In that environment, what matters is compelling programming -- and compelling programming starts...


The DGA deal is neither here, nor there

You'll be reading a lot about the DGA deal over the coming days, but here's a few things I can tell you about it right now: it's the dreaded neither here nor there kind of deal, and it reflects very badly on the AMPTP.The deal has wage gains which are great, and zero rollbacks. The AMPTP started their negotiations with the WGA with so many big rollbacks on the table that the entire idea of even talking was pointless, yet when they went to their favorite bedfellows, they treated them with respect. Even when the AMPTP walked away from the table for the second time, they were still demanding unacceptable rollbacks that apparently were never delivered to the DGA.The actions...
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DGA and AMPTP make deal, will the writers follow?

The DGA in their typical pacifist avoiding-confrontation-at-all-costs style of bowing down to corporate greed has signed a deal with the AMPTP after "negotiating" for just six days, well over five months before their contract even expires. Note to the DGA: taking whatever deal the AMPTP tells you to isn't really negotiating.Just to clear up some retardedly obvious Variety spin:The DGA deal amps up the pressure from all sides on the leadership of the Writers Guild of America, which has been out on strike since Nov. 5. Its last negotiations with the AMPTP collapsed on Dec. 7 with the congloms demanding that the guild drop six of its proposals.In reality, this puts significant pressure on the AMPTP to bargain with the...
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American Idol sees worst ratings in 4 years

I should have written a few things yesterday when I had the chance, because wouldn't you know it, it snowed in this area of North Carolina for the first time in like 2-3 years, and old 'net connection cried itself to sleep this morning and for most of the afternoon. Probably do the same thing on Saturday.What could possibly cheer me up more than having the connection back? Seeing that American Idol had its worst ratings in the past four years. They were still monster, but if the first episode back is any indication, then this show has seen all the growth it was going to."Idol" received a 13.8 rating among adults 18 to 49, according to national Nielsen data....


Uwe Boll fails again

Uwe Boll, that German guy that keeps adapting perfectly good games into horrible films using foreign financing -- repeatedly -- has gone and done it again.In the Name of the King: Dungeon Siege Tale pulled in just $1.5 million after the theaters cut this past weekend, after costing a whopping $70 million to produce.That's not including the marketing budget, of course.For whatever reason, with each failure more spectacular than the last, people keep throwing more money, more intellectual property licenses, and more jobs at this jerk, and he keeps on raping them into the ground. There is hope to be had though, according to Hollywood Reporter, the tax shelter laws in Germany may have finally done what no amount of...


SAG and AFTRA may divorce

When I said the other day that the differences between SAG and AFTRA were such that they should just stop pretending they still want to bargain together, and just end their relationship so AFTRA can see how much it sucks going it alone.To be quite honest, while I believed it would have been for the best, I won't pretend that I understand the complexities of their collective bargaining partnership. It may not be the best thing when all the various repercussions are taken into account, and yet, this may be exactly what is going to happen....
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Two more independent WGA deals

Chalk up two more wins for the WGA after Worldwide Pants, United Artists, and The Weinstein Company. Spyglass Entertainment and Media Rights Capital -- the latter of which I've never heard of, the former produced at least one movie in my tiny DVD collection -- have signed new "interim" deals with the Writers Guild of America, under terms the union has been seeking from the AMPTP for much of the past two-and-a-half months.The AMPTP issued a statement downplaying the impact of the Spyglass and MRC interim deals, asserting, "These one-off agreements are meaningless because the companies signing them know they will not have to abide by their terms for very long, since they'll be superseded by whatever final industrywide accords...
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Sarah Connor Chronicles craters

I still haven't gotten around to watching the new Terminator TV spin-off, so it's interesting to see other people's reactions without being tainted by my own. Interesting meta aside, what is concrete and definitely not good is how amazing the ratings were for the pilot, and what a huge drop there was between that, and the second part (or was it the second episode?) on Monday evening.Sunday: 11.1 rating, 17 share (huge)Monday: 6.2 rating, 9 share (-52%)9 is still good, but oh my god what a huge drop. Just an absolute ton of people stuck around after the football game to watch that pilot, and yet half of them didn't bother to come back just 24 hours later.That, my friends,...


Why Blu-Ray is losing

I must either be stupid, or a HD-DVD loving (and owning) fan boy. No other possible explanation will be accepted, I will be insulted, dismissed, and ultimately ignored for daring speak out against the golden cow idol that is Sony.Sorry, I don't play that game....
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Variety spins the late night wars into a victory for..the AMPTP

Best friend of the poor, blue-collar working (billion dollar multi-national) media corporations, Variety, has a story up that must have the AMPTP CEOs dancing on their boardroom tables (rumor: boardroom tables have been sold at auction to make up for hundred-million-dollar losses due to strike):Writers or no writers, Jay Leno is still TV's latenight leader.In its first three nights back on the air last week, NBC's "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" easily beat CBS' "Late Show With David Letterman" in all key categories, according to final Nielsen data released Thursday. "Late Night With Conan O'Brien," whose host is also operating sans scribes, topped the WGA-blessed "Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson."A couple of things worth nothing here, first being...
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Why Bionic Woman failed

I don't mean to pick on the guy, but Michael Hinman asked a straight forward question about what why Bionic Woman turned into a Bionic Mess, but then went straight on and missed the most obvious answer possible: it just plain sucked. I also feel like the hype surrounding the Terminator spin-off is hardly any different than the spin from NBC.Granted, the story wasn't actually about comparing the two shows and lacked an explanation that might have otherwise been somewhat convincing, but the argument is still erroneous.And yeah, there are lots of great shows that die for the same reason, that being nobody is actually watching it, where Firefly yes, but also Studio 60 come to mind in recent times....
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Jack Harkness gives James Marsters some Torchwood

Before I get into the first-episode guest star which you already know from the post title, let me say with no small amount of unpatriotic shame that the best "new" fall show last year wasn't produced in North America, and wasn't even really new, either.If you happened to get BBC America and are a fan of science fiction in all its shapes and forms, you probably heard about Torchwood, and if you got that channel, you had the opportunity to see it a number of months after the brits did.That's not the case this year, as we're only going to be running on a slight delay from the BBC, with new episodes from season 2 beginning later this month, on...
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24 hours later, Variety eats it on DGA talks

Alright, well that's strange. I went off on an epic rant against the DGA and AMPTP yesterday, predicting the latter group's ultimate demise and proclaimed this to be the "beginning of the end" since even the corporate lapdog guild couldn't come within shouting distance of even agreeing on a framework to talk, much less them having sat down to deal.That's what I get for listening to Variety as if they know anything about what's going on that isn't fed to them by PR shills or rumor mongers.Now quite suddenly, a date has been set for the two to begin negotiations, and for whatever reason, they've found some common ground to work on. Critical, this means one of two things have...
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Gizmodo staffer banned from CES

Not exactly TV or film news here, but "media" has pretty broad definitions, no?CES is a yearly electronics show where companies like Sony get to show off their newest, most expensive toys to a mob-sized press that probably couldn't afford most of it. They spend a ton of cash at this event and it's critical to how they do business. I don't think bloggers had ever gotten in until this year, and they were treated like second class citizens from what I hear.While I'd argue vigorously against such treatment, in the case of CES, it turns out that they weren't quite cautious enough....
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Weinstein's make WGA deal; SAG & DGA Items

I admit, I thought the "divide and conquer" strategy wasn't much more than PR. "They want to split the guild and weaken us, so we'll do it right back!" and all that, only unlike the AMPTP which hasn't made so much as a dent in the writers' solidarity, independent companies are telling the AMPTP to bugger off one after another with opportunities to get back to work while their richer and more stubborn (and greedy) rivals sit on their hands, holding their breath.David Letterman's Worldwide Pants came first, and was dismissed as irrelevant since that company only owns two shows: Letterman's, and that other guy who comes on after. Then United Artists signed a deal and was "inundated with scripts...
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My thoughts on fi-core

I figure I'll pontificate a little bit while my satellite Internet connection is down (rain) for who knows how long, on an issue I find interesting, conflicting, and vitally important to talk about: financial-core.Fi-core is a labor term used to define a person who refuses to pay their union dues for political activities they disagree with. That's not politics in the traditional sense, but instead refers to the unions organizing tactics.People who do this aren't bound by hardly any union rules, don't have to obey a strike, yet still benefit from all the things they fight against when the union signs new contracts -- which fi-core members can't vote against, because put simply, they can't vote at all....


Another striking writer hit by car

Back when the writers strike began, it was reported that one impatient studio employee had hit a picketer with his SUV and thrown this guy for a ride. Other writers pulled the guy out of his car and took his keys, after which he ran away and hid inside the building while police were called. The picture on the right ought to give you an idea how of bad that "accident" could have been, but should also have served as a warning about the apparent psychotic nature of office bugs working inside these monolith corporations.Another writer, this time Law & Order: Criminal Intent showrunner Rene Galcer was struck by a car on Tuesday, then physically assaulted by the driver...


CBS SAYS THERE WILL BE BLOOD!!

That was my impression of an AICN headline, and quite apropos too, with CBS making the long expected announcement that with no end in sight for the writers strike, Showtime's #1 drama Dexter will be gracing network airtime on Sunday nights starting in February.I caught the second season premier which did very, very good ratings for Showtime, and was real happy with what I saw. The only problem is that I only got to check it out because I was visiting my sister, who actually gets Showtime, whereas I do not.So I've only seen the second season pre, and that's it.I'm desperate for more of this show and now with CBS airing the entire first season, we can all enjoy...


American Gladiators big, but no match for NFL playoffs

NBC scored very well with the completely pathetic renewal of American Gladiators on Sunday night, hauling in a hefty 12 million viewers to win its time slot and stands as a network best season premier. Then again, there isn't exactly a lot else to watch on NBC and the other networks with the writers strike dragging on into its third month.Even so, CBS still crushed competition for the night with its AFC wildcard game between the Titans and Chargers, with a monster 32 share. Even 60 minutes with Roger Clemens bought home the bacon, boring a record 20 million people to death and making us all ponder what life would be like on dry land.The rest of the ratings slog...
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Paramount admits streaming profits at CES

You know, this really is the best indictment of the AMPTP corporations I've seen to date, and hysterically, they have only their fat mouths and unrepentant greed to blame for it all. Long before negotiations began -- we're talking three months before October -- the WGA started peppering the press with what it called the two faces of the AMPTP.When talking to the WGA about a new contract, management claimed virtual bankruptcy based on an uncertain future with dwindling profits and foggy prospects for new markets. Then they'd fly 3,000 miles east and tell Wall Street that revenue was soaring, profit was exceeding expectations, and how they were moving aggressively to capitalize on new media to suck up as much...
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USA is killing NBC

I don't know what's worse in this deal, USA (the cable net) nearly trumping The CW in yearly ratings, or USA absolutely killing NBC in profit making for parent GE. Who cares about the peacock, writers need to concentrate all their fire on USA if they really want to hurt that conglom.$100 million (NBC) profit in 2007, versus $600 million for USA, which can't even begin to compare in ratings, even though NBC is typically a distant fourth year-after-year."USA's profits are outlandish, considering that the network was kind of tattered and sluggish when NBC bought Universal" in 2003, says Hal Vogel, the veteran showbiz analyst and head of Vogel Capital Management. (At the time, Universal was the parent company of...
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United Artists' big score

Everybody talks about how United Artists is a has-been studio with no future prospects, one that only produces a couple of bad flicks per year, as reasons for why the deal between UA and the WGA doesn't really matter.With the epic game of chick going on in Hollywood, I don't happen to agree. Any movement in getting deals signed is a positive step forward that will put pressure on the other players to stop holding their breath and eat the massive financial hit the new guild contract will cost them: a grand total of an extra $50 million per year.Or, put another way, about 60% more than CBS CEO Les Moonves makes all by himself in a single year.But hey,...
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On Leno's strike breaking; various items

This is not one of those "everyone has an opinion" situations, if your curious what my opinion is. (Hey, see what I did there?)It doesn't really matter what the MBA says (how is it an expired contract can still govern what the WGA does, anyway?) or what the strike rules say: writing during a strike is scabbing, period. Doesn't matter if you're doing it for yourself, doesn't matter if you have a loophole.If you write during a strike, you're a scab....


WGA scores *HUGE* independent deal with United Artists!

I'm sorry I missed (only by an hour..) that Deadline Hollywood is reporting that the Writers Guild of America has signed or is about to sign (within 36 hours) an independent deal with United Artists, the film studio that Tom Cruise and his partner took over after being ejected from Paramount.If this is true -- and that's anything but certain given how unreliable Nikke Finke's sources can be -- it's every bit the huge news she says it is....
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'Terminator' series pilot online

Looks like Fox is letting the pilot for The Sarah Connor Chronicles out of the bag a little early, putting it on that dastardly digital medium known as the Internets. You know, the one that makes them so little money and is so unstable and uncertain that they can't pay anyone residuals when they stream video?Yeah, that Internets -- the one with the word 'billions' after it.So (via BuddyTV) you can watch the pilot before it airs on national television as the networks continue their brave exploration of this wild, untamed land made up of a 'series of tubes', populated by pirating savages, but only within a 24-hour window, starting at 9pm this evening.Or you can just wait until the...


Routh ejected from Superman? Singer bailing?

Ah, how sweet the smell of desperation.The most recent Superman flick was a boring rehash of everything we've seen before, and frankly it could have been edited together by a child using Windows Movie Maker, pasting together clips from all of the previous films, costing a fraction of a fraction of this that train wreck, and still drawing just as many people into the theater regardless.It cost too much, explored basically no new territory, but hey, it was directed beautifully, was it not? So sad then, that Bryan Singer is looking to jump ship (or make any excuse to do so) along with the supposed ejection of..wait, what was that guys name again? You know, the one that played Superman?...
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January 4th 2008, In Brief

I don't think anybody is reading these, but I'll give it some time, because really there's just no place else to put this stuff and a lot of it is click worthy. I've got a link to a page listing the season finale dates for all the shows ending in January, a Dark Knight trailer from a couple of days ago, some Stargate stuff, Lost (trying to) go viral, more.....
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More conglom-friendly spin

Variety has a lot of decent news on most days, but they've written some real junk reporting on the strike over the past two months and apparently, they aren't alone when it comes to reprinting or I suppose making up some spin of their own.I'm referring to a piece going out on the wire from Hollywood Reporter that was doing pretty well up until the fourth paragraph when out of the blue came a nugget straight from the AMPTP's talking point memo....
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Jamie Lynn Spears is pregnant...and unemployed

Disney appears to be playing favorites when it comes to their own roster of bad girls these days, although Lindsay Lohan has since graduated to the majors where "bad" usually means drug abuse, car wrecks, lawsuits, and of course feature films and special treatment by judges and cops, there's no doubt that Jamie Lynn Spears and Vanessa Hudgens are not considered equal in the empire of the mouse.16-year-old pregnant? You're fired! Young-woman playing teenager nude pic scandal? New contract baby!Just what is it Disney is putting in the water over there, anyway?...
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WGA condemns Leno; Wins latenight ratings

Nikki Finke's revelation that a clique of "A-list'ers" within the writers guild are plotting against the leadership -- which ought to send Kay Reindl into a fatal seizure if she's true to her "shoot all traitors" philosophy -- and will go fi-core to escape the strike and go back to work if the WGA doesn't accept pretty much whatever deal the DGA gets from the AMPTP, doesn't sound like it's panning out.In addition to the "are they or aren't they" debate, Jay Leno received a lashing from the WGA over writing his own monologue for last nights return to the air....
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Thoughts on Letterman's first show

The Late Show opened with dancing showgirls carrying WGA picket signs, which immediately made me laugh with sinful glee and must have made CBS absolutely cringe. Every night that David Letterman is on the air with his writers, their own show will be taking shots at them for being excessively greedy, driving it home to several million people that probably didn't think about it one way or another.Now, they're going to get a WGA friendly message with absolutely no rebut from big media. And meanwhile, on NBC, Conan O'Brien opens with a song about his new beard and his first guest was fellow NBC employee, Bob Saget....
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January 2nd 2008, In Brief

Lindsay Lohan is taking some heat in this edition of "In Brief", but you know the girl kind of deserves it. She damn near threw her life away with drug and alcohol abuse and yet because those things are relatively cheap, it probably didn't even put a dent in her ungodly riches.The cost of illegal drugs ought to be determined by the wealth of the user. $250,000 for some crack for Lohan, who can afford to buy a brand new BMW and just leave it on the lot for anyone to take that wants it.Also, J. J. Abrams needs to stop making movies. Seriously, does anybody really believe Cloverfield is going to be anything other than smoke and mirrors?Today: featuring...
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Hillary Clinton on Letterman tonight

I seem to be the only blog in town that has this outside of the mainstream press; apparently David Letterman has booked Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for tonights return to the air, alongside Robin Williams and Shooter Jennings.That ought to make for some interesting ratings with Republican candidate Mike Huckabee appearing on Leno at during the same hour.Perhaps more interesting is that Nikke Finke is spreading the rumor that Craig Ferguson won't actually have any guests tonight, but will transform itself into a pure comedy show for the evening to showcase its writers and their fight with the AMPTP. She's also still trying to form a wedge between feature writers who are upset (and self centered) about Letterman's writers...
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Reminder: Letterman returns Tonight

Tonight (11:30pm or is it 11:35pm as my guide says?) David Letterman returns to the airwaves with something none of his competitors will have: his entire writing staff. Sanctioned by the WGA after Letterman's company (which owns his show) struck a deal last Friday that gave some hefty weight to the writers' claims that the contract they seek is extremely reasonable.Letterman's first guest will be Robin Williams -- you can expect a number of big name SAG members to follow after that guilds president encouraged his entire membership only to frequent Letterman's non-struck show -- and Shooter Jennings as the musical guest.Leno has Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee tonight, while the rest of the bookies remain unknown. Huckabee has courted...
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After 9/11, NBC wanted "Cops", got "Predator" instead

There's an interesting story running from Reuters featuring some unflattering accusations from a former Dateline reporter that NBC rejected his ideas for shows investigating the origins of Islamic fundamentalism and al-Qaeda in favor of fluff pieces that "should instead focus on the firefighters and perhaps ride along with them a la 'Cops.'"John Hockenberry pitched these ideas after September 11th 2001, and claims he was shot down by Jeff Zucker....
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Top 10 stolen films and TV shows of 2007

I came across a post on Torrentfreak via NewTeeVee (a site you should consider scoping out) listing the top ten pirated films and TV series of 2007, which is worth mentioning for two reasons. The first being that a couple of the shows on the TV list are -- depending on how you view things -- ratings challenged, to say the least.All the people stealing these shows may do well to consider that if they acted like responsible adults and paid for this stuff like everybody else does, then these shows wouldn't end up getting canceled so often.Dexter, #9 on the list, is Showtime's most viewed show and set a personal ratings record for them in both the second season...


Money matters most

The title says it all: money matters most to the multi-national congloms that own our domestic television and film production. If, as this one anonymous writer claims, NBC\NBC-U didn't make any money for GE, it would have been sold off already. The same goes for every major studio.Here, I'll let this person explain it far better than I could:...


AMPTP celebrates corporate greed day

Variety inadvertently made a good point about the strike today when it happily regurgitated AMPTP propaganda messages about how the writers have lost more in regular wages during the strike so far than they would have earned in three years under the new media deal they've been asking for.Ignoring the fact for a moment that all such a statement does is underscore how incredibly cheap the demand is, and how terribly irresponsible and greedy the conglomerates are that they won't cough up an extra $50 million per year to cover digital downloads and streaming video -- what this statement really does is give us insight into the AMPTP's game plan.It's now clear that the congloms were well aware of the...
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